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Wednesday, 26 May, 2010

Islamic creationist gets chilly reception in Lausanne

Evolution never happened and Darwinism is the root of all evil, according to Harun Yahya. He’s drawn a lot of attention recently with posters advertising his conferences on Islamic creationism in Switzerland. His concepts are clear, but there are questions marks over his credibility. Lucas Chambers reports: 

Harun Yahya will hold another conference tonight in Geneva and day after tomorrow in Zurich.

Alternatively, Lausanne’s Zoological Museum offers its insights on evolution throughout the summer with its exhibitionOh my God.

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James Taylor
Thursday, 27 May, 2010 10:44 [ 1 ]

The arguments put forward by Harun Yahya in his Atlas of Creation (www.atlasofcreation.com) are appealing to an open mind. One has to be non-judgmental in deciding upon the truth and facts related to biology, astronomy, anatomy, paleontology, molecular biology, cosmology etc. I think all sciences have brought us up to such a point that there is no other answer to the world around us other than its being created. We are instantly being created out of a quantum field of infinite possibilities through virtual particles that show qualities of nonlocality. We have consciousness which is the only way for perceiving this nonlocal information via a mechanism of brain - neurological system. But the only fact is God is encompassing all, and science is finding and proving this ultimate fact. Thanks.

David
Thursday, 27 May, 2010 11:13 [ 2 ]

They may be appealing to an open mind, but only one that hasn’t done it’s research.

Harun Yahya frequently lies throughout the Atlas, with such mistakes as using fishing flies and pretending they are real. You can even see the hook. If his work was so valid, why would he need to make repeated fraudulent claims?

James Taylor
Thursday, 27 May, 2010 11:38 [ 3 ]

There is reluctance in many people to learning about the truth and facts that challenge their past indoctrination or upbringing or understanding. However, truth is not supposed to make everyone happy, because truth always challenges the non-truth or non-factual, which is Darwinism in this case.

Darwinism symbolizes non-truth, non-factuality, non-scientific and non-evident in our century. This truth is definitely not welcome by circles that have given their years or money for supporting this view that even Darwin himself were to admit that would fall apart if no intermediaries were found in the following years of his writing his book.

Years have passed by and not even one intermediary has been surfaced. Harun Yahya is ready to pay a trillion to any candidate who is to bring out an original intermediary form that would supposedly be a link between any two species. But none has been displayed up to now, other than the shameful examples in history.

Truth is to find its place in each person’s intelligence, understanding and conscience when one frees himself of any past or future boundaries. But it is o totally respectful and exemplary act of all who have found the courage and bravery to declare aloud that evolution is a deceit and it has never happened. Harun Yahya is one of these heroes…

David
Thursday, 27 May, 2010 12:48 [ 4 ]

There are thousands of transitional forms, hundreds of thousands. The problem is, people like Yahya create a false definition of what such forms should look like, then say nobody can prove it. But if you are asking the wrong question (deliberately and dishonestly), then of course you won’t get an answer.

Evolution is one of the strongest and best evidenced theories in any branch of science. No conspiracy is needed to maintain it.

I doubt I’ll post again here, so you should feel free to make up any rubbish in support of Adnan Oktar’s deceitful position.

James Taylor
Thursday, 27 May, 2010 14:12 [ 5 ]

Rather than saying there are hundreds of thousands of transitional forms, I believe it would be more rational, logical and scientific to give only 1 example of this. But definitely nobody can do this because transitional forms are - not existing.

Each one of the fossils unearthed up until now, have shown the entire humanity and made them witnesses to the fact that living beings from a variety of different species have living counterparts that have not changed at all. The Atlas of Creation as a matter of fact has hundreds of such comparisons that display to all seeing eyes that no evolution occurred, and animals, plants were created as they are in intact bodies all functional.

The trilobite with its compound eye structure found in the Cambrian layers extending back over 500 million years is one and an abundantly satisfactory example that the first eye was not primitive at all but fully functional, complex and full of intelligence and information. I am sure the majority of people living on this world has awakened to the truth and Darwinism has no longer any playground.

A Greenhill
Thursday, 27 May, 2010 15:17 [ 6 ]

James, you say “..years have passed by and not even one intermediary has been surfaced..”

Clearly somebody has been living in a cave (or maybe a church) their whole life. Please, please read a book other than your scriptures.

And as for finding truth “when one frees himself of any past or future boundaries”, uh, right. So basically forget anything tangible and real, just embrace James Taylor’s religion! Of course!

Rob
Thursday, 27 May, 2010 19:37 [ 7 ]

@James Taylor “Rather than saying there are hundreds of thousands of transitional forms, I believe it would be more rational, logical and scientific to give only 1 example of this. But definitely nobody can do this because transitional forms are - not existing. “

Here’s a list of a few: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listoftransitional_fossils

“Each one of the fossils unearthed up until now, have shown the entire humanity and made them witnesses to the fact that living beings from a variety of different species have living counterparts that have not changed at all. The Atlas of Creation as a matter of fact has hundreds of such comparisons that display to all seeing eyes that no evolution occurred, and animals, plants were created as they are in intact bodies all functional. “

The fossil record says otherwise. 99% of all species that has live on the Earth have gone extinct.

“The trilobite with its compound eye structure found in the Cambrian layers extending back over 500 million years is one and an abundantly satisfactory example that the first eye was not primitive at all but fully functional, complex and full of intelligence and information. I am sure the majority of people living on this world has awakened to the truth and Darwinism has no longer any playground.”

Google “eye evolution”. Every stage of eye evolution exists today in varies organisms. So are as complex as the octopus (superior than human) down to simple light sensitive patches.

RickK
Thursday, 27 May, 2010 22:58 [ 8 ]

James said: “But definitely nobody can do this because transitional forms are - not existing.” Unfortunately, while James makes this statement with apparent conviction, conviction does not make truth. James is wrong - completely, demonstrably wrong. Transitional fossils abound. The fossil record is much richer than most people (non-paleontologists) realize. This is just a tiny sample: http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/c.bkgrnd.html http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfoje7jVJpU&feature=PlayList&p=258CAE2F4546AA95&index=8 http://tiktaalik.uchicago.edu/searching4Tik.html

Adnan Oktar’s “Atlas of Creation” is a sad joke, with no scientific credibility whatsoever. And Oktar demonstrates, with his fishing lures and “trillion lira” prize, that he is not a man of integrity.

Pramodh Yapa
Friday, 28 May, 2010 01:17 [ 9 ]

Dear James, “I believe it would be more rational, logical and scientific to give only 1 example of this. But definitely nobody can do this because transitional forms are - not existing.”

Bird evolution:

Epidexipteryx hui, Protoavis, Protarchaeopteryx, Archeopteryx, Avimimus, Sinosauropteryx, Caudipteryx, Rahonavis, Shuvuuia, Sinornithosaurus, Beipiasaurus, Microraptor, Nomingia, Epidendrosaurus, Cryptovolans, Scansoriopteryx, Yixianosaurus, Dilong, Pedopenna, Jinfengopteryx, Sinocalliopteryx, Sinornis, Ambiortus, Hesperornis, Ichthyornis

Whale evolution:

Indohyus, Pakicetus, Rodhocetus, Nalacetus, Ichthyolestes, Gandakasia, Ambulocetus, Himalayacetus, Attockicetus, Remingtonocetus, Dalanistes, Kutchicetus, Andrewsiphius, Indocetus, Qaisracetus, Takracetus, Artiocetus, Babiacetus,Protocetus, Pappocetus, Eocetus, Georgiacetus, Natchitochia, Dorudon, Ancalacetus, Zygorhiza, Saghacetus, Chrysocetus, Gaviacetus, Pontogeneus, Basilosaurus, Basiloterus

Tetrapod evolution:

Osteolepis, Eusthenopteron, Sterropterygion, Panderichthys, Elpistostega, Tiktaalik, Elginerpeton, Densignathus, Ventastega, Metaxygnathus, Obruchevichthys, Hynerpeton, Acanthostega, Ichthyostega, Whatcheeria, Tulerpeton, Pederpes, Greerepton, Crassigyrinus, Pholidogaster, Pteroplax, Baphetes, Balnerpeton, Dendrepton, Silvanerpeton, Proteogryinus, Eoherpeton

Horse Evolution (Just the genera, with many species):

Hyracotherium, Orohippus, Epihippus, Mesohippus, Miohippus, Parahippus, Merychippus, Pliohippus, Dinohippus

Try reading a book or two.

Thank you.

Andreas Kyriacou
Friday, 28 May, 2010 07:35 [ 10 ]

Adnan Oktar is simply a fraud who has been taken to court in Turkey on several occasions.

He doesn’t have the foggiest idea about biology, otherwise he ans his ilk wouldn’t steal images of fishing lures to «prove» their bizarre line of argument.

Jack L.
Friday, 4 June, 2010 11:57 [ 11 ]

And if there is something Harun Yahya is good at, then it is in silencing critics. See this playlist on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/viewplaylist?p=5F6E733EFD1D2E42

Or his efforts to get Richard Dawkins’s site banned in Turkey.

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